Twenty-five years ago, Arnie Charnick took a look at Tony Rosenthal's Alamo Painted Black Cor-Ten Steel Cube Sculpture on Astor Place and saw two dice in lieu of the Black Cube Rosenthal created in 1967.
Two weeks ago, the East Village artist discovered an old sketch of that idea “by accident” and decided, “This is a pretty funny, good idea.”
Charnick, who attended Cooper Union in the 1960s and has lived in the neighborhood 44 years, presented his proposed public artwork to Community Board 2 last week.
He would attach white Velcro dots to the existing cube sculpture and pair it with a similarly patterned Masonite structure. Then, he would paint the Astor Place island sidewalk like a craps table — complete with paintings of manhole-sized chips, one of which would be a manhole.
Finally, he would string a 17-foot-high banner between two lampposts at the eastern end, depicting a casino-like scene. The piece would take two or three days to create and would remain there two weeks.
“It’s all about the visual pun,” Charnick explained of the work, which would be called “Crapshoot.” “It’s just the most obvious thing to think of: Cube, dice.”
But, Charnick reported as he sat by a small-scale model of the artwork at his East Village apartment on Friday, not everyone at C.B. 2 seemed to get the joke.
“At the meeting yesterday, the very first woman said what I knew they were going to say: ‘This piece promotes gambling,’” said Charnick. There were also concerns about blocking the eastward view from Astor Place.
Charnick hoped he had defused some controversy with his financial plans.
“A lot of people are sort of up in arms now about the four waterfalls — $15 million,” he said, calling that installation “kind of cool.” “This entire piece is made from $3,500, and I already have somebody who will give me the money.”
He would also sell a poster of the Astor Place artwork in the neighborhood, with a majority of the proceeds going to an organization selected by the community board.
Charnick’s work can be seen on the walls at Veselka restaurant and at the McBurney Y, where he did the swimmers mural, temporarily located on the jogging track but which will eventually be moved to above the pool.
He’s now just waiting on approval from C.B. 2 and the city — not to mention Tony Rosenthal, the noted Public Artist, and creator of Alamo, the 15' Cor Ten Steel Sculpture, that was one of the first Public Art proposals selected by Doris C. Freedman, a champion of public art who served as New York City's first Director of Cultural Affairs during the Lindsay Administration and as the President of the Municipal Art Society, on behalf of the New York City's Public Art Fund.
“We sort of need him,” said Charnick, spinning the Astor Place Cube in his model. “But if an artist says no… .”
Charnick admitted the C.B. 2 members “were taken by surprise.”
“The majority of people will think, ‘That’s cool,’” he said of his proposed sculpture. “And there will be a group of people that goes, ‘That promotes gambling,’ ” he sighed. “But, what’s art? Controversial, right?”
Brad Hoylman, C.B. 2 chairperson, said Charnick told the board he would consider the board’s feedback and return if he decided to pursue the project.
“I don’t think there was a lot of enthusiasm” for “Crapshoot” among board members, Hoylman said. “It was certainly unexpected. Someone thought three-card monte might be more relevant,” he quipped.
The debate, however, may be moot. According to Joseph K. Levene, Rosenthal’s art agent, Mr. Rosenthal will not grant permission to alter the landmark Alamo Cube Sculpture created by Tony Rosenthal in 1967.
Like all Artists, Tony Rosenthal owns and controls the copyright to the Art that he created, whether in the public domain or not, including the five Tony Rosenthal Sculptures on permanent display 24/7 in New York City.
Like all Artists, Tony Rosenthal owns and controls the copyright to the Art that he created, whether in the public domain or not, including the five Tony Rosenthal Sculptures on permanent display 24/7 in New York City.
“Can you go into the Museum of Modern Art and draw on a Picasso painting?” wrote Joseph K. Levene in an e-mail. “I don’t think so."
“What is the point of allowing someone else to capitalize on Mr. Rosenthal’s important and famous Work of Art by letting someone else modify or change or revise this Sculpture?” he asked. “Why not be an Artist, and create your own Art?”
Levene felt that Charnick was trying to capitalize on an already-famous work to gain fame himself, and thought he had an apt metaphor to describe it.
“If you want to be famous, all you have to do these days is" just say you want to do something eccentric with Britney Spears and you’ll get a lot of press and attention,” he said.
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